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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2011, 06:17:58 PM »
@Rajesh,
             That smudgeness is because of the lens... the high resolution sensor , if fails to get a high resolution glass will show smudgeness.. Even canon kitlens with my 60D looked very soft beyond 60% blow... for such high resolution sensor you will need high resolution glasses :)

Arindom, Rajesh uses lenses like Tamron 90mm, Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 VR and Nikon 200mm f4 on our JJMehta trips. Which one of those lenses do you think is having a problem with the 16 MP sensor ? :)
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2011, 06:58:10 PM »
After a month of using D7000 I can tell that it does not have any oil slinging issue or focusing issue whatsoever. .................

Overall I feel D7000 is not a body for the beginner who doesn't have much prior experience of using a DSLR & can be put off easily by the metering idiosyncrasies.........

Could not agree more. I had a D70s (my first DSLR) and used it for over 5 years and recently bought a D7K. I have not faced any of the previously reported manufacturing issues. I am very happy with the features, quality and capabilities D7K brings and compared to its cost, it has been a very compelling and satisfying buy for me.

Upgrading from D70s to D7K does has its own problems if no attempt is made to get used to the body in the field or seriously reading the manual again and again and trying out the settings.

Compared to the several settings and advanced features, D7K threw at me, my earlier D70s now seemed like a P&S to me. Learning, trying it in field and getting hang of all these advanced settings took time.

My first three JJMF shooting meets using D7K gave me crappy images for which D7K was not to be blamed, though I was at that point cursing D7K and thinking that I have a defective piece with focus issues. However after spending time with the camera and overcoming the steep learning curve that resulted from the upgrade, my fourth JJMF meet gave me a large number of keepers.

So to summarize:
1. I am happy with D7K. Face no issues and love the capabilities available at the very competitive price point.
2. For people upgrading from an older DSLR or for first time buyers, unless they spend time in the field and make efforts to understanding the camera settings, they will definitely be unhappy and some will eventually offer it for resale cursing the camera.
3. Upgraded from a 6.1 MP RAW image to a 16.2 MP RAW image and then viewing it on the same laptop screen does show the image to be softer with some smudge spots but the image actually is not soft or smudgy. You are just trying to see more of it on a smaller screen. That’s all.

Just thought I would add my own two bits to this discussion as a D7K owner. I am still a learning so if anything that I have typed above is technically not correct, please forgive me.

Rajesh

Congrats Rajesh ,that u are now adapted to the d7000 system..Also well done to provide some time to the body instead of thinking to change it.. I think it happens whenever you upgrade to higher bodies or even some different body... U need to provide some xtra time to be familiar with the system first.. Also U need to first read through the manual and get to know where is what and for what....
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2011, 07:10:51 PM »
I use a D7000 and I like it. Its loaded with lot of features, most I don't use though :D
(Not been sarcastic, but that's reality)

I am really getting hold of this digital photography in general, how pixels work..

For example, the Histogram of a jpeg on camera and Adobe LightRoom does not match (same photo) !!
I could clearly see the images appearing over exposed to "my eyes" and with LightRoom Histogram otherwise D7000 does show them only slightly skewed to right.

My life is so ruined !! :D

It will take time to really make a co-relation between couple of different display devices I use. My laptop, my PC monitor at work and at friend's place, my cell phone LCD, display of the person who might visit my Flickr photostream and what not and finally the D7000 display.

I read almost all the "WTS:Nikon D7000.." posts out of curiosity and assuming that the sellers are honest with the reason to sell, I see many many reasons (upgrades, shifted to Canon..) etc

It is true that in video reviews like cameralabs.com which I follow, it clearly claims that Canon 60D was giving better exposure results in bright sunlight to order of - 1 EV. That is too wide!

I think it is really necessary to understand the reasons, I am trying to read more and experiment. Many posts are claiming that D7000 is giving more emphasis on skin etc and over exposing the rest (or rather not giving other part of the scene any importance) to ensure keeping skin tones are proper...

More or less, I am feeling that its necessary to understand the behavior of the gadget in hand in particular circumstances to get the most of it...

Any helpful leads to better understand the Histograms are welcome :D





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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2011, 07:36:56 PM »
@Rajesh,
             That smudgeness is because of the lens... the high resolution sensor , if fails to get a high resolution glass will show smudgeness.. Even canon kitlens with my 60D looked very soft beyond 60% blow... for such high resolution sensor you will need high resolution glasses :)

Arindom, Rajesh uses lenses like Tamron 90mm, Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 VR and Nikon 200mm f4 on our JJMehta trips. Which one of those lenses do you think is having a problem with the 16 MP sensor ? :)

@Brendon, it seems like you mis interpreted my post... I talked about cheap lenses... I never met rajesh, nor I have a knowledge of his gear... Why dont you stop taking everything personally ;) Its a pity I dont read people sig, neither I have time , nor the tenacity .... ;D

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2011, 09:32:44 PM »
Dear D7000 users, check out Ray Soares's recommended settings for D7000 in dpreview. A simple google search should provide you the link. It has been a hit in dpreview nikon forum. I have personally tried a few of his settings...they work nicely  :)
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2011, 09:50:04 PM »
Dear D7000 users, check out Ray Soares's recommended settings for D7000 in dpreview. A simple google search should provide you the link. It has been a hit in dpreview nikon forum. I have personally tried a few of his settings...they work nicely  :)

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When I was not getting good images from D7000, I too did a search and downloaded settings from Kenrockwell which turned out to be crap, not suited to my way of use. So looked at other places, read the suggestions, checked them from the manual and if satisfied, adapted the settings into my D7K. Over sometime of doing this and experementing with the explained & suggested changed settings, I slowly started to get good results.

That it why I mentioned that adequate time should be spent with the camera and the manual should be read again and again before blaming the camera for bad images.

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2011, 09:52:11 PM »
Why I am getting a feel that Nikon has Made a Space Ship rather then a DSLR.

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2011, 10:42:52 PM »
Dear D7000 users, check out Ray Soares's recommended settings for D7000 in dpreview. A simple google search should provide you the link. It has been a hit in dpreview nikon forum. I have personally tried a few of his settings...they work nicely  :)

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When I was not getting good images from D7000, I too did a search and downloaded settings from Kenrockwell which turned out to be crap, not suited to my way of use. So looked at other places, read the suggestions, checked them from the manual and if satisfied, adapted the settings into my D7K. Over sometime of doing this and experementing with the explained & suggested changed settings, I slowly started to get good results.

That it why I mentioned that adequate time should be spent with the camera and the manual should be read again and again before blaming the camera for bad images.

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2011, 01:36:38 AM »
Why I am getting a feel that Nikon has Made a Space Ship rather then a DSLR.

Same here
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2011, 03:32:33 AM »
Yes I agree to the theory of beginners thinking they will get amazing photos with an expensive camera.

There was one gentleman who bought a FF camera and loads and loads of top of the line lenses. He joined a forum and posted his extensive gear selection that would make any person drool !

I eagerly clicked on his flickr link to see some of the awesome photos that he would have clicked using this gear and suffice to say that the statement "I was dissappointed" was woefully inadequate to describe my emotions seeing the drab drivel that was on display.  :(

I think he still has all the equipment but I haven't seen any real improvement in his photos till date. :P

Ha ha, I wonder how many of us actually do any justice to the equipment we own ;). I am sure, someone else would be at least thinking of the same thing about me. High time I removed the flickr link from my signature :P.

EDIT: On my way back I was thinking about this and guess what even we have done the same mistake as the beginner. We associated good camera to awesome photos :). If not, we would never have been disappointed because we would be keeping the photographs separate from the equipment.
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2011, 09:02:43 AM »
Nikons & Pentaxes

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2011, 09:15:35 AM »
ok guys here is the link for you

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1034&message=37815130
are these settings important if we shoot in RAW ??

Every settings can be changed in raw processing.... those are generally for jpeg... but yes metering meters/ autofocusing mode/High speed shooting ... thats the only thing I cant change in raw :) ...

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2011, 11:08:20 AM »
Every settings can be changed in raw processing....

Yes true - but it's a good idea to get the exposure right on the RAW itself as adjusting the exposure values enthusiastically in your RAW editor isn't that great an idea unless you're planning to only have a digital file and print max upto 6X4.

But yes, saturation, contrast etc are easiest set in RAW (good idea to use Adobe Camera RAW - where you can also create a "profile" of these settings from Luminous Landscape and just apply them as you process the pic - though it kind of defeats the purpose in a small way if you don't need/do further adjustments to the pic).
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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2011, 09:20:26 PM »
 :)" Camera makers love the fact that you're confused. Ironically, it makes it easier to distract you into buying something you actually won't like or need (i.e. make the wrong choice and have to buy again).

Part of the problem is that everyone is chasing "the perfect camera," something I've written about before. There is no such thing, so just stop trying to fudge data to prove that there is. There isn't even one camera that's necessarily just better than all the others after all analysis is done. The notion that there's "one winner" out of the hundreds of options available is also wrong. "

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2011, 03:58:14 AM »
I bought my D7k about 7 months ago. Have sent more than 11,000 clicks and I still feel have been able to reach only a few types - macros, nature, landscapes... no go yet for fast motion objects, portraits, super-macros.
EACH of these require a learning curve, and understanding more of the science behind the light, aperture, speed etc. This is easier said than done. Some of the pictures I have taken with D90 or simple P&S cameras (using manual mode) are far sharper than what I have achieved here.... in fact so much was the difference, that I moved back to P&S camera, just to convince myself that I still had the eye for shooting... D7k, has the power to demolish your confidence in yourself.

Having said the above,  have now learnt to be more tolerant with D7k, I have learnt to keep learning and improving - this is something you just do not have on most other models.

As someone pointed out, like it or not - there IS DEFINITELY a longer learning curve for D7k - the canvas is now bigger and deeper, the spectrum of things you can do MUCH bigger.

So, am I disappointed with my D7k - absolutely not !
Does it give me better pictures than other cameras ? The question, I would restate would be "Can I take better picture with D7k than other cameras" - Perhaps not yet, but then the issue is in my understanding it than anything to do with the camera itself.

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #77 on: December 14, 2011, 05:36:03 AM »
I am looking for a used Nikon D7000 KIT or body, anyone selling?

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #78 on: December 14, 2011, 11:23:46 AM »
I am looking for a used Nikon D7000 KIT or body, anyone selling?

Why not put this into the Buy & Sell board as subject: "WTB: Nikon D7000 kit"  ??

Be sure to read the Rules sticky at the top of Buy & Sell.

Good luck with it, BTW.

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Re: Why lots of Nikon D7000 available for resale?
« Reply #79 on: December 21, 2011, 08:49:30 PM »
Funny phenomenon... The D7k on sale are priced higher than they were available new... ;)

A rise in the trend of disposing of D7k started again... Macchi lelo.. Macchi lelo.. Taaje Taaje Macchi lelo :P


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