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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2012, 05:03:05 PM »
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or Cropping would be the thing to learn, ppl will take a scene with 100MP or More and later on PS crop out the desired frame from the picture... 
this is hilarious :) , megapixel war doesn't ends here.

Back at my office, they organized a photography competition and among several rules some are:

The camera resolution should be 12MP or higher (****)
Picture size should be limited to 3MB (are you joking, then why the hell above condition)

Though I could  participate in that competition by lending body of 12MP or higher from friend and can use the few L glasses that I own but I simply don’t, why the hell should I, when the organizers don’t even know the ABC of photography (this what I believe).

You're not alone my friend.
I've seen such ridiculous criteria for some competitions too else-where.  :o
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2012, 05:42:04 PM »
^^ Great then any competition where the minimum size is a 24 MPs then a D3200 user has a great chance of winning !!! :D
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2012, 11:38:37 PM »
Santanu said:
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...I wish I would have bought D90 that time by exceeding my monetary capability .... Bcz my eyes needed a brighter VF than of a D5000 other than that AF with motor lenses was the second reason behind upgrading.... And if i had bought it that time I wouldn't have upgraded now and would have bought a Nikon uwa instead of buying a D7000 body.
Points such as those are often made when a newbie asks for guidance on selecting his first digital SLR. Unfortunately, the reasons are not so clear until one has seen for himself the differences between entry level cameras and those designed for more advanced photo enthusiasts. IMO, a well conceived, even used, mid-range camera is a better choice than a stripped, crippled entry level one that will be traded off at a loss within a year or so. Used cameras of the class of 40D, 50D, 60D, D80, and D90 should not be so readily dismissed by serious students, in my prejudiced opinion.

All cameras were once new. And every new camera is used after a few weeks. Better to be sure that the desired and needed features are therein. The smell of new is not a very useful feature. Nor is the length of a "feature list."

Back at my office, they organized a photography competition and among several rules some are:
The camera resolution should be 12MP or higher... Picture size should be limited to 3MB (are you joking, then why the hell above condition)
Hmmm.... was "Thou Shalt not Crop." also in that list? I wonder if the person(s) in charge of the rule making could explain hyperfocal distance or the principle of the exposure triangle  if their lives depended upon it. What kind of contest is it that is so "exclusive" that pixel-less cameras like Linhof, Horseman, Hasselblad, Rolleiflex, Mamiya, and Leica are excluded from participation? Your friends back at the office probably need to keep their day jobs for now. Photography would come as a shock.

I wouldn't buy anything else that's less than 100 MP
I'm sure you must have some compelling reasons to say that, Anirban. I would be delighted to sit at your feet and learn whatever they are.  BTW, congratulations on your new gear.

:)
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2012, 12:36:06 AM »
Honestly... I am finding this megapixels race quite problematic ... but I guess as time progress so shall the technology...
You never know Lytro or 3d photography might be the day to day things which we will shoot in near future...

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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2012, 10:34:16 AM »
Yes Anirban, we have been seeing the sensor technology evolving, like 12 Mp of D90 is better than 6Mp of D40, 16 Mp of D7000 is better than 12 Mp of D90, 12 Mp of D3s is better than 12 Mp of D3/D700 and 16 Mp of D4 is better than 12 Mp of D3s. So even a smaller individual pixel is able to deliver better image quality than the previous generations bigger pixel. Previous pixel design was inefficient in collecting light photons. Thats why we have new designs like the gap-less and back-lit sensors and I am sure there are many such innovations happening to improve the pixel quality.

The next big step in sensor technology is expected when we have the Quantum Dots based sensors. This sensor technology is 4 times more efficient and twice the Dynamic Range than the todays sensor technology, and can easily give 144 Mp capacity with similar image quality or better than the D800's. So your expectation of 100 Mp is not unrealistic. As this technology is new, it is difficult to make large sensor size at the moment, so the first implementation will be seen in mobile phones and compacts, which will reduce the gap of image quality as compared to DSLR. But when this technology moves to DSLR, is will be of mind blowing quality. Let's wait and watch, and see how quick this technology can evolve.   
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2012, 04:41:24 PM »
He He...
Canon has one in its secret treasury box since a long time now.
The 120MP Beauty :D
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2012, 10:48:11 AM »
He He...
Canon has one in its secret treasury box since a long time now.
The 120MP Beauty :D
Hi Gaurav.

I give Canon credit for knowing the practical limits. That pixel density would scale to about 240 Mpxls on full-frame. Surely there are some tradeoffs if they go in that direction too far.

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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2012, 01:07:50 PM »
I understand henry but pulled that link here just for fun. :)
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2012, 10:28:56 PM »
Hope this D3200 doesn't score over 5D Mk3 in DXO marks ;)  ;D
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2012, 10:40:33 PM »
Hope this D3200 doesn't score over 5D Mk3 in DXO marks ;)  ;D

What if it does  ;) ?
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2012, 10:50:36 PM »
I don't know...  but let it go cool spreading a rumor that DXO bench marking is founded and funded by Nikon Corporation  8) ;)   :D
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2012, 10:58:01 PM »
Hope this D3200 doesn't score over 5D Mk3 in DXO marks ;)  ;D

Too late !!!

The same sensor used in the NEX7 matches the Canon 5D MK III already and the Nikon is sure to do a bit better considering its a newer sensor compared to the D3200 !!! :D

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/%28appareil1%29/795|0/%28brand%29/Canon/%28appareil2%29/792|0/%28brand2%29/Nikon/%28appareil3%29/736|0/%28brand3%29/Sony
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2012, 10:59:36 PM »
I don't know...  but let it go cool spreading a rumor that DXO bench marking is founded and funded by Nikon Corporation  8) ;)   :D

Check my last post on This thread. Nikon clearly has a winner. And its a Canon user Fred Miranda who is saying that after doing hands on tests.
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2012, 11:55:37 PM »
I don't know...  but let it go cool spreading a rumor that DXO bench marking is founded and funded by Nikon Corporation  8) ;)   :D

Check my last post on This thread. Nikon clearly has a winner. And its a Canon user Fred Miranda who is saying that after doing hands on tests.
Indigestible it is :( ,  Canon always had its weakness in high ISO performance (Small but considerable, it is a fact which must be admitted though there will be millions of people who never want to go above ISO 100), I console myself saying Nikon has an edge of 0.1x crop factor so the difference ( bigger the sensor better the ISO funda). But now its a 36x24 sensor, everything is equal but Canon seems to  be having a severe R&D deficiency(may be as big as building a 5K range ICBM) since years.

I desire to have high ISO performance simply because I cannot afford fast standard zooms :)
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2012, 02:40:01 PM »
DP review has posted some sample images:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/24/Nikon-D3200-preview-samples-gallery

I am impressed with the high ISO performance, entry level cameras have come a long way since I bought 1000D :)

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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2012, 04:31:46 PM »
Hope this D3200 doesn't score over 5D Mk3 in DXO marks ;)  ;D

Too late !!!

The same sensor used in the NEX7 matches the Canon 5D MK III already and the Nikon is sure to do a bit better considering its a newer sensor compared to the D3200 !!! :D

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/%28appareil1%29/795|0/%28brand%29/Canon/%28appareil2%29/792|0/%28brand2%29/Nikon/%28appareil3%29/736|0/%28brand3%29/Sony

DxO score of NEX7 is better than D7000, and if D3200's will be better than NEX7, then D7000 is in trouble...  ;)

Also, I still don't understand the excellent high ISO performance of D800. We link the high ISO performance with the sensor size, and specifically to the single pixel size, which has always been much bigget in Full-frame sensor than that of the APS-C sized sensor. However, the pixel size (area) of single pixel of D800 is exactly same size as that of D7000, and there is huge difference in their high-ISO performance. Is there anything else that is in Fx camaera's helping them have better ISO performance? Or can we expect to see the same ISO performance of Fx D800 is Dx bodies soon?
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2012, 07:38:57 PM »
when canon released 21mp FF, all nikonians laughed and said canon has gone mad and running after crazy megapixels.

now nikon is playing the same game, first with 36mp FF and now 24mp APS-C!!  ;D

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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2012, 12:51:48 AM »
DxO score of NEX7 is better than D7000, and if D3200's will be better than NEX7, then D7000 is in trouble...  ;)

Also, I still don't understand the excellent high ISO performance of D800. We link the high ISO performance with the sensor size, and specifically to the single pixel size, which has always been much bigget in Full-frame sensor than that of the APS-C sized sensor. However, the pixel size (area) of single pixel of D800 is exactly same size as that of D7000, and there is huge difference in their high-ISO performance. Is there anything else that is in Fx camaera's helping them have better ISO performance? Or can we expect to see the same ISO performance of Fx D800 is Dx bodies soon?

Why will the D7000 be in trouble ? It has a whole host of advantages over the D3200. :)

And you need to take DXOmark results with a grain of salt. If you see the ratings, the D7000 has better high ISO performance AND more dynamic range than the NEX7. Its just the colour depth that the NEX7 wins at. So in reality the D7000 sensor is slightly better actually. I believe DXOmark gives marks for having more megapixels which is why the NEX7 has a higher score inspite of loosing on 2 out of 3 parameters.
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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2012, 09:09:44 AM »
And you need to take DXOmark results with a grain of salt.

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Re: Nikon D3200 comes with 24mp Sensor
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2012, 12:27:00 AM »
Hey I am not a biased Nikon or Canon fanboi. I am an impartial, unbaised, detached, dispassionate, neutral, non-discriminating, open minded Sony fanboi.  8)

And I was comparing one Sony sensor to another Sony sensor. At the end of the day they are both much better than the Canon APS-C sensors. ;D
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