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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2012, 09:48:24 PM »
how is the lens price comparison between Nikon and Canon after the recent price hike of canon? Is Canon costlier by much than Nikon between comparable lens range? Would Nikon follow suit? any inside news?

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2012, 10:03:30 PM »
how is the lens price comparison between Nikon and Canon after the recent price hike of canon? Is Canon costlier by much than Nikon between comparable lens range? Would Nikon follow suit? any inside news?

It depends upon the type of lens , you are looking for  :)
Some lenses are cheaper with Nikon, some are cheaper with Canon. So please mention the lens that you are primarily looking for  :)
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2012, 11:09:51 PM »
Actuallly now practically ALL Canon lenses are more expensive than Nikon. Some even much more so before the price hike.

For e.g. The Nikon 70-300mm VR sells for 29k while the Canon 70-300mm IS now sells for 48k on Flipkart !!! :P
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2012, 11:46:12 PM »
Actuallly now practically ALL Canon lenses are more expensive than Nikon. Some even much more so before the price hike. ... For e.g. The Nikon 70-300mm VR sells for 29k while the Canon 70-300mm IS now sells for 48k on Flipkart !!! :P

Canonites should be proud. This affirms their conviction that Canon glass is better. Now the prices match the claim. If they multiply the price by five, it'll be as good as Leica glass, the REAL "L" glass.

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2012, 11:59:02 PM »
Actuallly now practically ALL Canon lenses are more expensive than Nikon. Some even much more so before the price hike. ... For e.g. The Nikon 70-300mm VR sells for 29k while the Canon 70-300mm IS now sells for 48k on Flipkart !!! :P

Canonites should be proud. This affirms their conviction that Canon glass is better. Now the prices match the claim. If they multiply the price by five, it'll be as good as Leica glass, the REAL "L" glass.

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2012, 01:12:58 AM »
Canonites should be proud. This affirms their conviction that Canon glass is better. Now the prices match the claim. If they multiply the price by five, it'll be as good as Leica glass, the REAL "L" glass.
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I thought Leica glass sold much cheaper as panasonic glass. the Letter L must mean something after all.
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2012, 01:31:06 AM »
nicely said.
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2012, 01:39:44 AM »
I too use Nikon. No other reason not to choose Canon.
Absolutely. If you tell anyone that you shot with Nikon they will rush to Canon store as your sentence implies. :D

And just for information Vimal, come to Fort and find out the statistics for yourself. If you know any of the shopkeepers there personally you can sit and chat for a while and get the ground level data. Agreed the 6D is a ****-poor release but currently hot selling FF is 5D MkIII at it's higher price than it's competitors does not make it cheeeaaapppp. But it is still outselling them. By almost 3:1 from what I hear.

They tried to convert me too for 5dMk3 when D800 was not available. I got the feeling that Nikon isn't giving them enough comission to keep them pushing Nikon cams. Not to mention at that time they weren't getting much of nikon materials. Don't know about now.
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2012, 07:05:10 AM »
umeshrw: very well said, shopkeepers do recommends that brand which give them better commission.

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2012, 08:35:13 AM »
Canonites should be proud. This affirms their conviction that Canon glass is better. Now the prices match the claim. If they multiply the price by five, it'll be as good as Leica glass, the REAL "L" glass.
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I thought Leica glass sold much cheaper as panasonic glass. the Letter L must mean something after all.

Hahaha... Touche.  Come to think of it, I can get Zeiss glass on a Sony P&S...  And Schneider Kreuznach glass on a Samsung P&S.

Perhaps the L really means "Red Line," that exciting little red ring around the lens. ;)
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2012, 09:35:32 AM »
Canonites should be proud. This affirms their conviction that Canon glass is better. Now the prices match the claim. If they multiply the price by five, it'll be as good as Leica glass, the REAL "L" glass.
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I thought Leica glass sold much cheaper as panasonic glass. the Letter L must mean something after all.

Actually it's the other way around :). Panasonic makes a lens and then gets it branded as a Panasonic Leica lens, but for that the lens is tested by Leica and it has to clear some hurdles. But, I don't think it's the same when it comes to P&S cameras. Panasonic makes the camera, Leica just re-brands it and sells it as their own.

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2012, 10:39:01 AM »
Actually it's the other way around :). Panasonic makes a lens and then gets it branded as a Panasonic Leica lens, but for that the lens is tested by Leica and it has to clear some hurdles. But, I don't think it's the same when it comes to P&S cameras. Panasonic makes the camera, Leica just re-brands it and sells it as their own.

Now, Veeresh. Are you telling me that isn't a REAL Leica lens on that Panasonic P&S?   :'(

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2012, 11:32:08 AM »
sounds like someone putting a Rolls Royce sticker on a Nissan :p

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2012, 01:46:17 PM »
A D7000 with kitlens 18-55 VR and remote is available for 52K. Its 1 yr old one.
- Is it a good deal?
- Any news about Nikon following canon in increasing lens prices any time soon?
- Saharshji. I dont about Nikon equivalent, but whats comparison of price bet canon's 55-250, 18-135, 70-200 L4, 50 with its Nikon counterpart now?
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2012, 02:09:17 PM »
A D7000 with kitlens 18-55 VR and remote is available for 52K. Its 1 yr old one.
- Is it a good deal?
- Any news about Nikon following canon in increasing lens prices any time soon?
- Saharshji. I dont about Nikon equivalent, but whats comparison of price bet canon's 55-250, 18-135, 70-200 L4, 50 with its Nikon counterpart now?

Satish Bhai,

After the price increase , all Canon lenses are slightly  ;) expensive than their Nikon Counterparts  :'(

at 52K , it is not a steal deal  :) as D7000 was sold for 42 K in our forum( but that was a grey purchase).If you can get the complete kit for around 45K, then it will be great :)

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #75 on: September 19, 2012, 04:49:28 PM »
What you have observed is correct. What others have said is also correct. But a bit of softness doesn't make much of a difference to the final image. Even that and sharpness changes from lens to lens. It is also dependent on in camera settings. Canon default settings give you better sharpness than an equivalent level Nikon default settings. But that sharpness is because of in camera processing. You can change most all settings in camera to suit your effect needs . For both nikon as well as canon. As for me, I have Nikon 800e now and before that D200. I am a Nikon loyalist because a no. of reasons which should be most important to any photographer than just IQ feel.

1) Most important. I can use ALL of my old as well as new lenses.
2) Built quality of any Nikon is better than equivalent (+ or -)priced canon camera
3  More buttons allow for quick and easy access to settings. Applies to less extent to low end cameras but still better than canon because even a highest priced canon has to be removed from eyepiece to change its setting.
4) This is my own experience . All Nikons give image feel on default settings. I.e. My D100/D200 / and a friend's D700 images looked the same (other than MP and sharpness difference) in capture NX at fit to screen. Only if you zoom would you know which camera they were shot with. D800 looks a bit different but that is in a pleasant way.
5) Better resale value. Shouldn't apply here but as I am a pro and have to change cams and lenses (and do not have loads of money) so........
6) In indian weather nikon lenses are more durable and less prone to catch fungus and can be repaired cheaper and easily than canon. Though in recent times I feel that repairing advantage is becoming less and less.
7) Nikon cameras remind me that I am the one clicking the pics and and I am responsible for them whereas from what I have seen of canons that they are made with cutting edge tech resulting in making people depend on it to make better average pics. Doesn't mean that all canon user are like that. Or that no Nikon user uses P mode. In resent times Nikon cams have started to incorporate a lot of tech so I guess this is the demand of the times.   
 I know that I am going to get a lot of flak from canon users . But cannot be helped .This is what I feel.

Well someone's been smoking the Nikon pipe for sure ;D
Thanks for the laugh, especially no. 7, No need to know the fundamentals of photography, just buy a Canon, yea sure ;D
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2012, 04:51:23 PM »
To the OP,

I really think you should buy the D7000 and sell the 60D, your photography will improve drastically ;)
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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #77 on: September 19, 2012, 06:51:46 PM »
A D7000 with kitlens 18-55 VR and remote is available for 52K. Its 1 yr old one.
- Is it a good deal?
- Any news about Nikon following canon in increasing lens prices any time soon?
- Saharshji. I dont about Nikon equivalent, but whats comparison of price bet canon's 55-250, 18-135, 70-200 L4, 50 with its Nikon counterpart now?

Satish Bhai,

After the price increase , all Canon lenses are slightly  ;) expensive than their Nikon Counterparts  :'(

at 52K , it is not a steal deal  :) as D7000 was sold for 42 K in our forum( but that was a grey purchase).If you can get the complete kit for around 45K, then it will be great :)
thank you, ya this d7000 is said to be not much used and in warranty. Has complete kit, but lens is only 18-55. The main advtg is its from same locality. I am still toyin bet 60D which was body only around 48k, but apprehensive about the lens price rise. But Nikon might follow suit and may increase price too right?

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2012, 10:36:19 PM »
... I am still toyin bet 60D which was body only around 48k, but apprehensive about the lens price rise. But Nikon might follow suit and may increase price too right?

Hello Satish.

Perhaps you should park the idea of choosing between the D7000 and 60D for a bit. Both are good bodies. Why not study your needs for imagemaking, looking out for the next five or so years, and determine which lens lineup matches that the best?

Also keep in mind that if you want to use other-brand glass in manual mode, the Canon will support that activity better. Have you held the Canon 60D and Nikon D7000, comparing how they feel and how their controls are situated? That could be a factor.

As to the prices, nothing happens in a vacuum. If the Rupee/Dollar/Whatever is falling, one might reasonably expect that prices will go up. Why would a company want to place itself at a disadvantage with respect to the competition unless there was some economic force pressing them? IMO, those two companies' products are too evenly matched for either to think it can price itself up much without the other one taking up the slack in short order.

If I were a betting man, I would bet that Nikon will raise their prices too.

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Re: D7000 & 60D and your reason!
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2012, 12:34:30 PM »
Satish,
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